Jay Urich: Making an Impact After Football | EP 20

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And so a mindset, well, I just
got to win, drive down on the

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score.
Obviously there's more to life

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than football.
Difficult was it to transition

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away from football into civilian
life.

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Success isn't defined by one
specific measure.

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Everybody has a different
journey.

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It's all combined and it's all
about that brotherhood and love,

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not necessarily The Who has the
most money or who made it the

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So I think it comes down to
identity and it has nothing to

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do with what I do.
It's by His grace and by His

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blood and by His body.
And so as I receive that and

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continue to receive that, I
believe that yields a

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confidence.
Like I said before, it goes

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Today's guest is Jay Urich, a
previous Division One athletes

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playing quarterback at the
University of South Carolina

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from 2017 with a 2020 when he
finished up, he was the top QB

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in the state coming out of high
school class of 2017 and a local

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to the Upstate having a passion
for the community.

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After a successful career and
graduating from Carolina, Jay

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started Original Design in 2020,
a nonprofit that works to allow

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underprivileged kids to succeed
in all aspects of life.

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He is now also the founder of
Banner Player Development and

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Initiative aimed at helping
middle and high school athletes

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have the tools they need to
succeed both in both on and off

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the field.
Jay, thanks for coming up.

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I'm excited to talk to you man.
It's going to be good.

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Yeah, man, I'm excited to be
here.

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And I know you got my last name
right.

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I know we were.
We were connected back in the

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day in high school football.
But a lot of people say you rich

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or something.
So you did.

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It right?
Yeah, that's how well I get the

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same thing with the Gerald.
It's Gerald, but Heath Gerard or

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Keith Gerald.
I'm like, it's just Gerald.

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But when you look back on your
high school career, are there

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any games that really stick out
to you?

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It's like a great game or a
terrible game.

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I think honestly, it's a mix
between both of the great and

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the bad games.
So I think we're playing

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Greenville High School my senior
year.

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So I was already committed to
South Carolina and it was, I

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think it was senior night and I
think it was a back and forth.

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Senior Night.
It was our senior night at home.

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I ran and I think it was going
back and forth as like maybe

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like things like 41, duh, 30
something we were.

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Leading.
Yeah.

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And then so like I think there's
like maybe 5 minutes to go and

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we were driving on the field and
I threw a a sort of seam ball

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into cover 2 corner that sort of
drifted back and he's really

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athletic corner and picked it
off.

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And so they went down to score.
And so they're up by like 2 or

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something like that with like a
minute to go.

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And so that was on scene and I
was like, crap.

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I just like lost the game for
us, but obviously. 2 minutes

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left in the game.
Yeah, Yeah, we have.

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A minute left.
And so my mindset went like, we

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just got to win.
We got to drive down on the

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score.
And you know, in high school

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you're not really like focus on
kicking field goals like you are

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in college.
But we got to score a touchdown.

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So I was like, let's do it.
So he was like a minute left in

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the first play.
We ran like a quarterback

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counter because I was, I could,
I could run a little bit and so

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I took it I think 68 yards of
the house.

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So.
That was like a really fun

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because it was like went from a
big time of adversity where I,

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you know, was really, you know,
you know, hurt emotionally just

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like me.
I just let my team down to, you

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know, being like, let's go like
next play mentality and being

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able to to, you know, score and
on.

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They got the ball back.
They did, and they, you know,

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they didn't they.
Didn't do it.

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They didn't.
Score actually was back on the

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field and prevent defense.
I was one of the deep.

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Nice.
I was playing both ways.

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You play both ways a lot, no?
OK, I got you.

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I never played defense, but you
know, obviously on Thursdays

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before the games, you practice
the last game scenarios and.

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He's a big guy.
I'm knocking the ball down.

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Exactly.
Exactly.

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I don't know if I'll be able to
tackle anything.

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But not a lot.
Yeah, I kid you not, I I still

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think about occasionally.
Not a lot.

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My junior year.
We were playing Blue Ridge your

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sophomore year and we got
smacked.

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We played a terrible game.
We were supposed to be great

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that season.
I played for Jail Man back in

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the day.
You were at Blue Ridge then and

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we had just like beat Southside
pretty good, which is incredible

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because Jail Man is always
terrible.

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And we just won our first game
like 30 points.

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We were like, hey, we're going
to go in there and beat Blue

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Ridge and.
We did terrible was at Blue

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Ridge.
Yeah, yeah.

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So it's probably one of your
first starts, Yeah.

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That was yeah, my sophomore
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I.
Think it.

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Was early in the season right
it?

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Was second game yeah cuz then
the next game we played

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Hillcrest, OK and they won state
that year wow and we were

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playing them kind of tight we
were playing decent and then it

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was the second quarter so early
game I tore my ACL was done for

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the.
Year, I do remember that.

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That was really tough.
Yeah, so goodness, good.

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Memories.
Y'all had y'all had a great team

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that year so.
Yeah, yeah.

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And then?
Obviously went to rent and y'all

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did pretty good there.
Yeah, Yeah, we did.

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I think we did better my junior
year in 2016, in 2017, But then

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right after I left, I think they
won state, really.

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Yeah, it was pretty cool.
First state championship for Ren

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so.
Wow, good for.

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Them That's some good players
coming back.

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Yeah, it was fun.
So when did you get your first

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offer in high school?
So I got my first offer my

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sophomore year of high school, I
think it was the spring and.

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After the season, Yep, so I was.
At Ren at that time and I think

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I went down to, I know I went
down to Mercer University, which

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is in Macon, GA.
And so at this point I had no

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offers, but I had that sophomore
year film at Blue Ridge, which I

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did all right.
Like I was young and had

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potential, but it wasn't even
too crazy.

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I think I threw for like 1300
yards, had about 400 yards

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rushing, 6 touchdowns.
I think I had more interceptions

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than touchdowns, which is tough,
but but at the same time I just

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had a lot of potential and IA
lot of people don't know that,

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but I just started playing
quarterback the year before that

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your.
Freshman year was your first

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year.
So I was a receiver and like

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running back just because I was
fast all throughout, you know,

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growing up.
So I had that one year, not even

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really one year because I broke
my collarbone my my freshman

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year.
So I didn't really have a lot of

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time.
So I really put in a lot of

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work.
So software is kind of your.

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First go, my first go and I, I
had my our quarterback trainer,

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Coach Ramon, who helped me and
so I like really worked hard on

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that, you know, for multiple
times per week just trying to

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get better.
And so then so I had that

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Goodyear, I showed a lot of
potential.

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You know, I was a big guy and
athletic.

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And so Mercer offered me, which
is great my sophomore year.

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And then right after that South
Carolina State offered me.

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And so those were the first two
offers that I remember.

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Everyone after that outside of
like the bigger ones coming

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later, like my junior year, I
don't really remember but that.

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Was pretty good though to go
into your junior year knowing

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like hey, I've got potential to
play the next level.

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Oh yeah, yeah, that was a goal
of mine for a long time is to

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play college football and win
the national championship.

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Wasn't able to do that last
goal, but same time it did mean

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a lot just knowing that the
college coaches were starting to

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acknowledge me and.
And after my junior years,

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really whenever I started to get
a lot more when.

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You get a USC offer.
That was, I think it was after

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my junior year.
So yeah, I was that spring of my

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junior year, got the offer and
then after that Tennessee

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offered me.
Yeah, Tennessee, Duke offered

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me.
And those are like the three

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main schools that I was like
really, I was, I think after

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Caroline offered me, I, it was a
spring that year.

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I committed that summer because
I knew I just wanted to stay in

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state and Coach Moschamp was
building something great that I

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want to be a part of.
And then, so then after that,

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that's whenever Tennessee and
Duke were really trying hard to

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make me flip nice.
And so there's a bunch of

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stories.
I, I literally just saw

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goodness.
What's his name?

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He's he's the DBS coach right
now for Virginia Tech, but he

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was the DBS coach at at Duke.
OK.

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You were in his recruiting area.
Yes, Coach Jones.

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Derrick Jones.
And so he was at Duke at the

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time and before signing day, you
know, the next year, they kept

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recruiting the whole year, even
though I was committed to

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Carolina.
And, like, they were like really

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trying to get me to flip.
And yeah, they didn't.

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But he was going all the way
throughout signing day and was

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like, really trying to get me to
go.

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And I saw him at a conference a
month ago and we were able to

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talk about it.
And he was like, I could never

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get you to come to do it was fun
talking to him.

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A.
Couple years later, so before we

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dive into what you're doing
currently at Banner Player

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Development and Original Design,
I do know a lot of the audience

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is going to be wondering or
wanting to hear more about your

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experience at Carolina and just
learn more about you.

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So what was the most difficult
part from transitioning from

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high school football to college
football?

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Now let's get back to our guest.
I think it was the mindset shift

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because like obviously in high
school, you're like, you know,

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you're still kid, you're having
fun, you're, you know, growing

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up.
And so I already had that

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mindset where I was a little bit
different in the way of like I

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had that goal to play in
college.

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You had that training mentality.
I was really working hard and so

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I was, I was prepared for it.
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specifically the SEC, it's like
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me, but it was just the

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consistency of that mindset.
So for four years, it's like if

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you want to be good, if you want
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that same mindset consistently.
You can't just like in high

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school, you can have it, hey,
I'm going to have that mindset

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during the season and I'm going
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All this kind of stuff like you
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successful at that level.
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of that mindset.
I have friends and former

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teammates are not playing in the
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Javon, Ken Law, Debo Samuel,
Bryan Edwards, like that.

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Dylan Long on that.
They had that mindset and it was

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like it was just nothing else
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challenging because like
obviously there's more to life

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than football, but I think that
challenge of of the consistency

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part of it was the toughest
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work hard and win and just that
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They had the discipline, they

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had the commitment, they had
that competitiveness, which all

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those things I had as well.
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them, it was, you know,
opportunity met, you know, they

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were able to meet that
opportunity with performance and

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they were able to really, you
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that level and then obviously
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thrive there.
So it was really encouraging to

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be around those guys because I
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But at the same time, knowing
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by one specific measure, you
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different journey.
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be able to talk to them and see
what they're doing and being

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successful and see what, you
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who might not have made it to
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all combined and it's all about
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Not necessarily The Who has the
most money or who who who made

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it the furthest, the longest
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It's that family approach which
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Important it's pretty cool.
You'll still have that you'll

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still talk to each other and
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When you look back on your first
day at Carolina, so you in high

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school, you were the best guy on
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You're the best quarterback in
the state and then you get your

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first day at Carolina and
there's all kinds of talent

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there.
What was that like?

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It was really tough.
I think the obviously coming in,

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there's already a starter and so
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Who was the starter when you?
Were his name is Jake Bentley.

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Yeah, OK, I remember.
He's a good friend of mine and

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he's still stay in touch.
He's now the head coach at high

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school in Rock Hill.
So I'm proud of him and we still

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stay in touch to this day.
And so like, it's like you want

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to compete and you want that job
at the same time like respecting

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him and and learning a lot from
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quarterbacks too.
That's a new for.

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That's new for you because you
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Yeah, yeah.
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adjustment.
And so I think that adjustment

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was probably the hardest part.
And then just confidence, you

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know, like knowing, you know,
having that confidence and

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building that confidence
whenever you might not get as

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many opportunities at the
beginning, obviously you're not

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on the first team.
I whenever I was there, I was

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not even on the on the second
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And so you have to like, you
know, with the opportunity, you

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have to be able to meet that
opportunity with execution.

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And a lot of times whenever you
don't execute, which a lot of

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former athletes know this, it's
really hard to build that

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confidence up to continue to
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And so it's like, it's like with
anything else, you have those

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great times of, of performance.
And there's also sometimes that

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you, you know, necessarily
didn't do as well.

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through both of those successes

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and failures with the mindset of
consistency, with the mindset

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of, you know, next plays most
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That's a good mindset.
Like I'm sure the coaches are

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always drilling that into you
and all that.

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Are there any mentors that stick
out to you, either players or

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just like off the field your
first couple years or during

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your career at Carolina?
Yeah, so when I got there, the

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director of player development
was a guy by the name Marcus

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Loudmore.
Oh yeah, he's.

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One of my that.
Sounds familiar?

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He's a he's a baller and love
him to death.

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And so he was, he was there and
so we got to know each other

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pretty well.
He was amazing, obviously

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amazing player, amazing guy.
And so he was really impactful

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to me as as a freshman.
And then he stepped from that

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step away from that role in the
corner.

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Shaw, another great man, stepped
into that player development

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role.
And he's another guy that, you

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know, still taught him to this
day and just a big influence in

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my life.
And both of those guys obviously

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had amazing careers, but to me,
what stands out to them, to me

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about them is they're just who
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And what I was able to glean in
their heart for other people

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behind them to grow and learn,
you know, and it wasn't just all

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about them.
And so I was able to learn a lot

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from them.
And you know, like you talked

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about with Banner player
development is a lot of those

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lessons that I learned from
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Obviously they were doing at the
college level for college

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athletes inspired me to be able
to help sort of transition what

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I learned at the SEC level down
to middle and high school

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athletes.
Nice.

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Well, that's quite the
opportunity there, learning from

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someone that was mentored by
Marcus Lattermore and Connor

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Shaw.
What about your first game day

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experience?
What was that like?

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Yeah.
I mean, it was crazy.

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I mean, I think we played our
first game in 2017 at Bank of

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America Stadium in Charlotte.
Oh nice, I was that UNC.

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I think we played NC State.
NC State, OK.

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We beat them, which is great.
And so that was a really fun

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environment and NC State got a
had a good program, we had a

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good team.
And so there's just, I mean,

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countless amount of memories
from the from that first game

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all the way throughout my whole
career.

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One of the favorite ones that I
had was, I think it was my

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junior year before my injury, I
was able to play quarterback

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against Clemson at home at
Williams, Bryce.

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So I got a drive there and that
was really fun and being able to

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play against, you know, the team
from where I was.

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Yeah.
So it was a cool moment.

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That is pretty sweet.
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When you look back on your time
at Carolina, obviously there's

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all kinds of temptation for for
athletes and there's a lot of

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guys that aren't believers.
Yeah.

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How did you stay true to your
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You're not.
And how difficult was it to do

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so?
Yeah, it's a really good

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question.
So in 2013, so I was 15 years

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old at the time, I knew I needed
Jesus, like I knew I just needed

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his forgiveness, his love, his
kindness.

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moment, like just yielding to

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the Lord and was born again,
which is beautiful.

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And so I started following Jesus
from that moment and really was

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passionate about my teammates
knowing Jesus and just an

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evangelistic gifting Lord gave
me and just started wanting all

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my teammates at Wren and Blue
Ridge and Wren to know him.

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And so took a lot of my
teammates to church.

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And you know, it was always
talking about the Lord and it

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was beautiful.
And then that carried through

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all the way through my time at
South Carolina And so just going

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after the Lord.
But I remember in 2020,

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obviously COVID happened and
that gave me an A lot of

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opportunity to spend a lot of
time with the Lord in the secret

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place, just me and him and in
prayer.

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And I remember he met me in a
new beautiful way that was

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revolving around the word
intimacy.

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And for so long I was focused
on, you know, obviously

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forgiveness of sin and of, you
know, the Lord saving me.

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And then now like my passion for
other people to know him, which

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obviously is beautiful, but for
in some, in some ways I was

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neglecting a lot of the, the
main point of what I believe

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Jesus came to do, which was to
restore us back to proper

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fellowship and union with the
Father.

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How are you neglecting it?
I was focusing on what I could

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do for the Lord more than
receiving His love for me.

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And so it was so much focused on
what can I do, how can I share

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this with another person, which
obviously are good things.

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But what I've come to find out
is that the most important thing

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is that the order is correct.
A pastor named Damon Thompson,

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who I really look up to has said
before, beholding is the means

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of becoming.
And so it totally that's kind of

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phrasing.
That mindset of a beloved

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identity shifted everything in
my heart because for so long it

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was about doing it was about
what can I do to become more of

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a good Christian.
And it shifted to I'm going to

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behold Jesus in that 2020 moment
and then encounter with the with

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the Lord, I'm going to behold
his beautiful faith and behold

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the glory, the land of God who
took away the sin of the world

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and loves me.
And from that, I'm going to

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become all he wants me to
become.

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I'm going to like the scriptures
talk about being being molded

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from one level of glory to
another level glory into the

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image of Jesus.
And so that shift was huge.

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I think another big thing, part
of that was just a reliance the

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Holy Spirit and those moments
and just diving deeper into the

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Lord's heart for me to
experience Him on an intimate

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level.
A personal level that was

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centered around that rather than
you know what to do for.

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Him, a big part of my faith
journey was having community for

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the first time, which was really
kind of introduced to me at

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Gauntlet through screen.
I was like, wow, there's guys my

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age that are like following the
Lord and passionate about it and

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genuine about it.
And that was well, like pretty

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much the first time I've been
introduced to that.

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But going to Carolina, was there
any moments where you didn't

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have that community or you might
have felt alone in your in your

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walk?
Yeah, definitely.

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I think I know.
I bounce around your question.

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I was able to answer the
question about the time at

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Carolina.
But so I think it was there was

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definitely times where obviously
if you're following the Lord,

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it's not going to be the most
popular thing and there's going

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to be things that comes up,
comes up and temptations and

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things like that.
But to your point, the

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importance of community,
different people who are, you

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know, on the same page and are
going after the same, same

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thing.
You are so important.

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And so obviously within
football, it's a lot of people

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are going after football, going
after success, and obviously you

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can do that.
But at the same time, I had

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amazing group of people around
me in Columbia when I got to

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Carolina that helped me, that
guided me, that loved me.

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And then also, you know, it's
just beautiful that throughout

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my time at Carolina, that same
passion for my teammates to know

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him obviously was still there.
And so I started to lead what we

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called Rosewood Ministry, which
the house that we met in was on

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Rosewood.
If you're in Columbia, you know

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where it's at.
But on Rosewood, we would get

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together.
And at first we just met in the

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team meeting room with a couple
guys.

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We just sought the Lord and, and
got together.

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And from there over the next
three years while I was there.

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Yeah.
And you know, we just, I mean,

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we, we saw some amazing things.
It got the point where, you

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know, some teammates were born
again and we, they were baptized

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in the, in the cold tub.
So just a beautiful life change

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more than anything, just
honoring his presence, honoring

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the Lord's presence of, you
know, we'd get there.

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We had, we had to be there.
I think we had morning practice.

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We had to be there at like 6:30
in the morning, everybody in the

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00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,120
door.
So we would get there like 5:15,

454
00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,600
we'd go in the team room and all
lights would be off and we'd

455
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,240
just put on worship and just
seek the glory of the Lord.

456
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280
And some of the most powerful
encounters I've ever had were in

457
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,200
that team meeting room with five
to 10 athletes just on their

458
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,040
face before the Lord, just
seeking his glory.

459
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,760
And some amazing stories that,
Oh my goodness, I can go on

460
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,160
forever about the glory of the
Lord and his presence coming in

461
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,320
those moments where we were so
desperate for him that, I mean,

462
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,560
I'm telling you, one of the guys
that came in, I think, I think

463
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:04,560
he was born again in that room
and just met the love of the

464
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,400
love of God.
Just met him in that moment

465
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,160
after practice.
He, you know, we were always

466
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,840
shook because the glory and the
Lord was so present.

467
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,520
We, we got back from practice
and I saw my teammate just sit

468
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,400
in the locker room like this and
just like shook.

469
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,760
Like he just had practice.
We just had two hour practice

470
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,880
and he was shook to his core
because of the encounter he had

471
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,320
with the Lord.
He was like changed everything.

472
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,960
And so started that.
And then now like, I think it's

473
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080
continuing to go and obviously,
you know, I'm not there anymore.

474
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,720
But that was something that to
your point of community was so

475
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,240
important that I was able to
sort of help, you know, go

476
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,600
before and and and lead.
And it blessed me having not

477
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:47,120
just people at church, but I
thought the Lord directing me to

478
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,120
creating the church because the
church obviously isn't a

479
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,040
building.
We go to it.

480
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,880
We are the church, we are the
body.

481
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:55,000
And so bringing church to the
environment of the football

482
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,720
team, the facility to work.
We are the body and that was

483
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,320
something that was really.
Huge.

484
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,280
How did you become a leader off
the field even when you weren't

485
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,880
necessarily always a leader on
the field?

486
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,960
Where'd you get that confidence?
Good.

487
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,200
Question So I think it comes
down to identity, you know, like

488
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,760
knowing who you are and
obviously get things that the

489
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,320
Lord's given you and you know,
given me to just operate in.

490
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,280
That is like, obviously I didn't
earn any of that.

491
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,840
It's just sort of like how the
Lord made me.

492
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,920
And so I think it's the grace of
the Lord in the favor of the

493
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,320
Lord, but the same time, the
confidence that comes through

494
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:33,080
time of the Lord speaking his
identity over me and that

495
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,040
identity as his son and his
beloved, beloved, righteous son.

496
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,760
And it has nothing to do with
what I do.

497
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,120
It's by his grace and by his
blood and by his body.

498
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,440
And so as I receive that and
continue to receive that, I

499
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,880
believe that yields a confidence
to walk in the gifts in the

500
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,640
different places that Lords put
put us that, like I said before,

501
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,880
it goes beyond anything that I
ever did to earn it.

502
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,240
Wow, that's incredible.
You obviously had an awesome

503
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,760
four years at Carolina.
How difficult was it to

504
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,040
transition away from football
into civilian life?

505
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,200
It's a big shift.
And so that's a lot of why I'm

506
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,280
so passionate about helping
middle and high school athletes

507
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,680
with Banner is because I knew
how challenging it was for me as

508
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,600
a college athlete where we did
have the support, you know, like

509
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,840
we were just talking about with
Marcus and Connor and so many

510
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,800
other people that it still was
so challenging of making that

511
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,360
shift of, you know, just our
identity, the the beautiful and

512
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:39,600
the crazy part is that as much
as the Lord's doing, I still had

513
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,320
never have had it together.
And so I still don't have it all

514
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,840
together.
And so it's like, I'm like.

515
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,840
It's say it louder for all the.
People who don't understand.

516
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,280
None of us got it all together,
yeah.

517
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:55,120
It's just like it's so important
to to have the people there to

518
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:58,920
support you and like those
people who might be able to have

519
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,160
been a little bit further along
the way than you to be able to

520
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,960
help you in that process of
transition.

521
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,200
So I remember, you know, after
four years of being defined as a

522
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,120
Carolina football player, that
being, you know.

523
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,360
In your life being defined as a
football player.

524
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:16,480
Exactly.
You know, 20 years and I don't

525
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,000
know, 20 years.
I wasn't playing football

526
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,240
whenever I was like 3, but you
know what I mean?

527
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,000
You know, it's like for so long
and then that is no longer part

528
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,800
of your identity.
I mean, you've been working for

529
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,000
it pretty much every day.
Like as a football player, you

530
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,200
think about it pretty much every
day.

531
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,160
That's all.
You're just done.

532
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,440
Yeah, and so that was really
big, a big shift.

533
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,440
And you know, the Lord did some
amazing things in my heart

534
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,800
specifically to that I that
identity piece.

535
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,760
That was just times of struggle,
times of, you know, achievement.

536
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,880
But that transition is is really
tough.

537
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,640
So you started original design
within months of graduating from

538
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,880
Carolina.
What sparked that idea?

539
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,880
And and for those that aren't
familiar, what is original

540
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,480
design?
Yeah, so I actually started

541
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,360
original design in 2020 when I'm
all still playing.

542
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960
So it was my, it was sort of
like the end of my football

543
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,560
career.
But original design is all about

544
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,600
helping underserved children in
Columbia know their original

545
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840
design to have fellowship, the
Father son of spirit.

546
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,120
And so a lot of what we've been
talking about of what the Lord

547
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,280
was doing in my heart, the Lord
showed me that that wasn't just

548
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,120
for me.
It was for me to receive at the

549
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,840
beginning, but it also was the
gospel.

550
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,360
It's that in the in in the
beginning in the garden, you

551
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,800
know Adam and Eve before Sinner
of the world were walking the

552
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,080
cool today with the Lord and the
command of the Lord was to be

553
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,440
fruitful and multiply and to
enjoy him and obviously the sin

554
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,640
end of the world and we all were
to see that we all have to play

555
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,440
a part in that of that
deception.

556
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,360
And so now the Father is in has
sent Jesus to restore us back to

557
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,680
that original design.
Now we on earth as his as his

558
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,440
bride as the bride of Christ are
now bringing forth the Kingdom

559
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,280
of heaven and get to be
ambassadors for Jesus.

560
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,760
And instead of saying, I am
going to say this prayer and

561
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,920
then I'm going to go to heaven
one day, we get to believe the

562
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,960
true gospel that Jesus has
defeated every enemy and now we

563
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,200
get to partner with him and
bring his Kingdom to earth.

564
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,840
And so that's what I'm all
about.

565
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,120
That's what I want to do.
And so original design is a big

566
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,920
part of that.
And so we practically what we do

567
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,280
is we help children between the
ages of 8 to 12 in Columbia,

568
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,720
boys and girls, to have a mentor
and who loves Jesus.

569
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,600
And so we partner about 20 kids
each year.

570
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Where do you find the kids
typically?

571
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,760
Yeah.
So we find the kids in the city.

572
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,320
So we have partnerships with the
city of Columbia and also social

573
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,040
workers.
And so we have the kids about 20

574
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,880
each year and then they are
entered into our year long

575
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,840
mentorship program where they
had that one to one mentor and

576
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,200
we walk with them throughout the
whole year and have a full day

577
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,200
camp or a certain event every
other month of the year.

578
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,960
Wow, every other month.
That's quite a commitment.

579
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,120
So it's a big commitment for the
mentors, but also the it's not

580
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,240
just one-on-one, it's it's
one-on-one in the sense of

581
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,560
mentor to camper, but it's a
group setting.

582
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,640
So they're not just getting that
one to one support.

583
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,800
They're also getting that
communal aspect of what you were

584
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,840
talking about earlier that is so
important for young people to to

585
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,760
thrive.
When was the first event?

586
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,440
And so you you said you started
doing it while you were still

587
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,320
playing.
Like that's absolutely insane

588
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,640
that a student athlete has the
capacity to add on to that.

589
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,320
What was the process of starting
it?

590
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,200
And then what was the first
event that y'all launched with

591
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,920
it?
Yeah, so it actually started,

592
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,800
you know, in the secret place
whenever we were, you know,

593
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,240
during COVID, which was which is
also that revelation he gave me.

594
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,400
But then the next thing is I
took it to Connor Shaw and the

595
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,840
player developments we started
talking about in meetings and

596
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,440
just me and him having a
conversation and he's like Jay,

597
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,520
I was like, I probably need to
wait until I'm, you know, know

598
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,880
what I'm doing to start
something like this.

599
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,280
Like what are you waiting on?
I was like, I don't know how to

600
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,680
start a non profit.
He said, let me help you.

601
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840
So Connor helped me and then I
had a meeting Coach Muschamp and

602
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,440
he it was huge support got me
connected to the mayor and a lot

603
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,800
of other people to help me sort
of get this thing jump started.

604
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,800
And so to answer your question,
we had in a fundraising event in

605
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,760
2020 and before our first year
of programming, which was in

606
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,360
2021.
So we raised $30,000 to help

607
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,280
start the first original design
year in 2020.

608
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,480
And then jump started with I
think it's 23 kids the first

609
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:38,440
year throughout all of 2021.
So that was four years ago where

610
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,280
some of those kids now, I guess
they're in high school now at

611
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
this.
Point They're getting into high

612
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,840
school and it's going to be fun
to see them come back and

613
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,720
hopefully be mentors one day.
That's awesome what you are

614
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,880
doing there in Columbia and cool
to see how much you're giving

615
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,040
back to the community there.
So now you're balancing that

616
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,640
with a for profit and banner
player development.

617
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600
How do you balance the two and
what are some of the challenge

618
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,840
for some of the differences in
the challenges between leading

619
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,000
both?
Yeah, it's a really good

620
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,560
question because I wouldn't be
able to do it without the people

621
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,440
around me.
So with original design, I was

622
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,440
wearing every hat for so many.
Obviously, when you start

623
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,880
something, you're doing
everything right.

624
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,720
And so I was doing everything.
And then just the Lord blessed

625
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,880
us and people started to, you
know, see what we're doing and

626
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,760
believe in it.
And I received a lot of amazing

627
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920
donations and continue to to do
that.

628
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,280
And so we're growing.
And so with that, we've been

629
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,880
able to hire a program director.
She was part time with us last

630
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,280
year.
Her name is Emily Germstadt.

631
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,880
She's amazing.
She has an MSW.

632
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240
So is, I mean, absolutely the
perfect person.

633
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,320
So she is full time with us this
year for original design.

634
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,400
So she's running all the
programming and I'm doing like

635
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,080
the the fundraising, the leading
the business and everything with

636
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,360
original design.
So I'm able, I said that because

637
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,960
that's what empowers me to be
able to also do the things the

638
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,600
Lord's call me to do in other
spaces too.

639
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,400
So still leading original design
and that's a, that's on the

640
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,400
forefront of my mind pretty much
every day and leading Emily to

641
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,400
do that as well.
And then with Banner, it gives

642
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,920
me a lot of time to be able to,
you know, build on those

643
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,040
relationships and start, you
know, everything with Banner.

644
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,400
So what are some of the services
or some of the clients that

645
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,120
you're working with with Banner?
Yeah.

646
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,560
So Banner, just to give you a
little bit of insight before

647
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,920
about telling the clients that
we have, Banner is all about

648
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,960
former college athletes
empowering the next generation

649
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,280
to thrive both in sports and in
life.

650
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,320
And so next generation being
middle and high school athletes.

651
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,640
And so the four pillars that we
have in helping these middle

652
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,360
high school athletes are centred
around a lot of what the college

653
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,400
athlete would receive.
It's what I received.

654
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,840
And so giving back that to the
next generation.

655
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,480
So those 4 pillars are character
and leadership development.

656
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Second one is recruiting support
for those athletes who want to

657
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,480
play in college.
The third one is building your

658
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
brand and obviously with an IL
now.

659
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,280
You know it's.
Making us away.

660
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,280
And so you got to be prepared to
to know exactly how to build

661
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,800
your brand, how to do that
without ego and you know, all

662
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,640
those different things.
And so that's the third one.

663
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,600
And the fourth one is life
beyond sports.

664
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,200
So like we like we talked about,
you know, the ball starts, stops

665
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,880
bouncing, you know, eventually
and you have to be prepared for

666
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,000
that.
And you know, a lot of things

667
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,080
that we do are mock interviews,
you know, how to be prepared

668
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,400
with for a interview with a
future employer.

669
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,640
How do you look someone in the
eyes?

670
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,160
How do you shake their hand?
Resume building it.

671
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,640
Was a middle and high schooler.
Yeah.

672
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,360
Teach them how to do that.
So it's, it's really hitting on

673
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,720
those things before they need
them.

674
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,280
And so now they're growing into
those people that's that's

675
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,200
holistic further than just their
sport.

676
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,920
You're turning them into young
men, yes.

677
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Young men and young women,
because this isn't just for

678
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,880
football.
This is although I played

679
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,560
football and this is for all
sports.

680
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,520
And one of my good friends and
mentors, his name is Dylan

681
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Thompson.
He's the director of player

682
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,520
development at Washington
Commanders right now.

683
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,440
And so I was on the phone with
him and he was talking about,

684
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,920
you know, a lot of what we're
doing with Banner and what he's

685
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,760
doing in the NFL.
It's about seeing what's

686
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,400
invisible, right?
Everybody likes to see what's

687
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,280
visible right now.
How can a when my son or my my

688
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,600
daughter who's a high school
athlete coming home to after a

689
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,800
workout, they're going to be
sweaty.

690
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000
You know, they're going to be,
you know, changing the clothes

691
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
and it's going to be like, hey,
I got I got some work in today.

692
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,199
And the parent goes perfect,
that investment is working

693
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,239
because I see that visually.
And so with Banner, your athlete

694
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,159
as they come home aren't going
to be sweating unless they're

695
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,120
doing something completely.
Wrong.

696
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,120
Exactly.
So now it's seeing the value in

697
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,239
the sense of what's the
important thing down the road in

698
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,159
40 years, how do you want your
child to be developed to where

699
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,880
after you're gone, they're set
up to succeed.

700
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,520
They're set up to treat the
janitor.

701
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,680
That's just as much as as well
as they're going to treat the

702
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,520
CEO.
And it's those mindsets that

703
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,560
just don't come from training.
They come from intentional

704
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,480
development that these former
college athletes and myself are

705
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,080
being able to build to help set
up the next generation to learn

706
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,200
those.
Yeah, I don't think people are

707
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,320
aware of how difficult it is for
players to transition when

708
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,840
sports are done.
Like, I'm sure you'll have

709
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,560
speakers all the time telling
you like, hey, you need to be

710
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,040
ready for whenever football's
done.

711
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,760
And 90% of the room's not paying
any attention to that.

712
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,600
For sure.
That's they're not.

713
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,840
They're not talking to me.
Yeah.

714
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,480
But there's just so much
strength, even guys that make it

715
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,320
to the NFL, I mean, the average
careers, three years, like

716
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,640
that's not enough to live off
of.

717
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,240
And so also, you've been doing
this entire life and what do you

718
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,000
do?
Yeah.

719
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,000
And that's an incredibly
difficult transition.

720
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,920
I I wasn't in that, in those
shoes.

721
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,400
I just played high school
football, wanted to play in

722
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
college, and it was difficult
for me to transition.

723
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,160
I didn't even have those four or
five extra years.

724
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,440
So I can only imagine, but I
don't think parents are aware of

725
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,640
the necessity of preparing for
afterwards, especially not a lot

726
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,440
of the athletes.
For sure.

727
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,280
And I think it's, I would even
argue that it's even more

728
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,040
important for the high
schoolers, like in your

729
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,120
situation of like you had that
dream and for everyone,

730
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,080
obviously it ends at some point,
but it's like you don't have

731
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,680
that support.
So in college, if you make if

732
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,640
you go to South Carolina or
Tennessee or Florida or wherever

733
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,560
might be, you're going to get
that support.

734
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,000
So I had that and it still was
challenge.

735
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,320
That's great that y'all have
that used to.

736
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,400
They didn't do that, Yeah.
That's great.

737
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000
But now for Someone Like You
back in the day, how cool would

738
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,800
have been for you to be able to
have someone to say, hey, I know

739
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,880
I've been there before and the
disappointments are the the

740
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,120
successes.
And now like helping you walk

741
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,320
through that.
I would even argue to your point

742
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,440
it's it's almost more important
for high schoolers to have that.

743
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,400
I would have loved to have had
that resource.

744
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,600
I'll say that.
Yeah, because, yeah, it's

745
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,720
absolutely a difficult
transition when you look at some

746
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:50,120
of the players, the young
student athletes that you're

747
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,120
working with, what some of their
schedules look like on a

748
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,720
day-to-day and how young are
some of them starting to train

749
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:56,280
at.
Yeah.

750
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,760
So obviously it varies for
every.

751
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,800
Athlete.
I've heard, I've heard kids.

752
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,920
I mean, you hear of Tiger Woods?
Oh, yeah, there's videos of him

753
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,800
like putting at the age of
three.

754
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,720
Yeah, you know, there's
obviously it depends.

755
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,320
Yeah, it's there's they start
early and.

756
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,360
Start the crib.
Yeah, for sure.

757
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:18,160
And one of them that is one of
our clients is, I mean, just so

758
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,760
focused on baseball.
I mean, just locked in almost

759
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,080
too much.
And that's something that I'm

760
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,440
working with them too is like
your identity is further than

761
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,120
baseball.
Yeah.

762
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,600
And then there's others that,
you know, are, you know,

763
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,320
learning what it looks like to
have a schedule on the calendar.

764
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,800
So you're going into ninth
grade.

765
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,320
And so we have.
Custom plan for each individual

766
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,080
kid.
Depending on the, the specific

767
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,320
plan that they're on, if they're
in our inner circle, which is

768
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,760
more of our, you know,
one-on-one coaching with me, you

769
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,800
know, they, they have those
one-on-one meetings and, you

770
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000
know, we're working through
like, hey, you have to let me

771
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,520
know your schedule because I'm
going to tell you, you know,

772
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,840
we're going to figure out that
time.

773
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,240
And then you can't just be like,
you know, the day before we

774
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:03,920
like, oh, I had this game now.
And it's like, obviously if it

775
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,800
comes up, it's fine.
But it's like, it's just

776
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,960
learning those things that, you
know, you, you need to learn.

777
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:12,200
Yeah, it's hard.
And so like just something small

778
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,720
like that to where it's setting
up the schedule and, and doing

779
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:16,120
your chores and doing all that
stuff.

780
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,080
Obviously as you're younger
you're doing that and as you're

781
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,760
growing up learning, you know a
bunch of different things.

782
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,240
But we have, you know have those
one-on-one clients that I work

783
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:27,520
with.
And then we also have a more

784
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,560
broad opportunity where we're
having a player development

785
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,760
conference this summer as well
as our player development

786
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600
course, which is available for
any parent to the.

787
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,560
Course.
So the course was it's about 7

788
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,360
hours of content that I was the
main teacher who had a bunch of

789
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,360
other former athletes come in
and we broke down everything

790
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,120
with those 4 pillars.
And so we discussed all of that

791
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,840
and then one and just combine
all of our expertise to where

792
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,440
now parents can invest into
their athletes future by, you

793
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,680
know, purchasing that for them
and walking with that through

794
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:07,840
through them with it.
And then also we have school

795
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880
partners right now on that
within high schools.

796
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,880
And so there's a couple
different ways from the

797
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,520
conference to buying that, the
parent buying the course for the

798
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,040
kid, doing the one-on-one
coaching with me.

799
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,800
So that's a little bit more
intensive.

800
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,320
And then the athletic programs
within high schools partnering

801
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,440
with us to where now the parent
doesn't have to invest in it.

802
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,560
Now the athletic department of
the booster club is.

803
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,400
And so it's sort of there's a
wide variety of how people are

804
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,480
being involved.
In high schools, there's so many

805
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,000
good opportunities like that to
just have extra education, like

806
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,800
the just the, the broad plan
education system that we have is

807
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,560
it's gets the job done,
whatever.

808
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,440
But I wish that we learned more
about entrepreneurship, about

809
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,200
finances, about player
development, just like more life

810
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,800
skills.
That would be such a, just a

811
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,320
blessing to have some of those
things talk to you as a high

812
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,720
schooler for sure.
So I'm I'm hoping that y'all get

813
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,040
get some high schools clients
and whatnot.

814
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,400
It'd be great.
It's gonna be awesome.

815
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,480
And you're working with some
schools in the Upstate,

816
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,200
Columbia, is it kind of all over
the state?

817
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,800
Yeah, it's all over the state
right now.

818
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,520
I have clients that are
individual, individual young

819
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,000
athletes from Greenville to
Columbia.

820
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,960
I don't have any in the lower
state right now.

821
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000
And then schools wise, we have
two school partners right now

822
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,840
within in Columbia.
And so just up here, like I told

823
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,160
you earlier, I was meeting with
school in the Upstate.

824
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,800
And so just like, you know,
continuing that and the words

825
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,480
getting out.
And so one thing that I've, I've

826
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,720
sort of seen is that the coaches
and the athletic directors see

827
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,880
the need, you know, they see the
need specifically with the, with

828
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,480
the college game coming down to,
you know, the high school game,

829
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,000
there's a great need.
And now it's just about how do

830
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,520
you feel that need and having
the right curriculum?

831
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,800
How has NIL affected high school
recruiting or just high school

832
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,640
kids?
In general, I think it's, it's

833
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,080
influenced a lot.
I think not only has there been,

834
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000
I mean it's always been like
this, but like expectations for

835
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,600
kids, You know, they think that
they're going to be ACC football

836
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,640
player.
And obviously I love championing

837
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,480
all athletes.
But at the same time, it's like

838
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,440
good to have goals and
expectations, but also being

839
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,320
realistic to where if you don't
end up being an AC football

840
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,320
player, it's like not knowing,
not seeing yourself as a failure

841
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,800
because it's like.
Just so.

842
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,960
High the expectation.
It's like it's silly to put that

843
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,960
on yourself.
And I learned that too.

844
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,080
It's like there's a lot of
things that I would change going

845
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,880
back.
So I think there's always been

846
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,560
like that kind of like, you
know, challenge, But I think

847
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,000
with an IL now coming to college
and you know, the house

848
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,800
settlement and a lot of
different things now in the high

849
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,600
school level in South Carolina,
you can have a one year transfer

850
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,480
rule.
And so that just so now if you

851
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,280
Trent, you can, you can have a
one time transfer.

852
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,760
To new school without having to
move.

853
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,320
Yeah, OK.
That's because used to you'd

854
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,520
have to get a new address.
Exactly.

855
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,880
You had to move.
And so I mean, you see it just

856
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,040
moving, moving down.
And so, you know, the big time

857
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,320
high school recruits are having
NIL deals and stuff.

858
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,120
And really, yeah.
So it's it's interesting to see

859
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,520
how it's going to play.
Around, I should say, I'm not

860
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,000
surprised.
I mean, the private schools

861
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,760
would do that.
Back in the day, we lost a lot

862
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,680
of players to the local private
schools, so I won't get too far

863
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,960
into that.
But it's kind of always

864
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,000
happened.
But I guess now it's just more

865
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,200
open and more, I don't know,
thrown around or common I should

866
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,400
say.
But what is the the conference

867
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,400
that y'all are doing in July and
how can people get involved with

868
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,400
that?
Yeah, so we are actually trying

869
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,560
to nail down the date.
It's going to be June 12th or

870
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,360
July 14th.
Those are Saturdays.

871
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,640
And so that's going to be
available for all high school

872
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,720
athletes within the state.
And so we're also going to

873
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,200
invite the parents of the
athletes, coaches and athletic

874
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,440
directors to come.
And the heart behind the

875
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,680
conference is just giving away
the value of what we're doing at

876
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Banner and almost like an
introduction as we're getting

877
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,280
things, getting things rolling
and so.

878
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,680
Is it a camp or is it like show
up in like an actual conference

879
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,720
like you would see?
Yeah, it's an actual conference

880
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,720
and so there's no athletic
activities with it.

881
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,960
It'll be from 10:00 in the
morning to three in the

882
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,640
afternoon, have lunch and we're
going to bring in big time

883
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:14,480
speakers to come in and and help
break down a lot of our pillars.

884
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,360
And so we'll have I'm planning
right now having a scout from

885
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,200
the Tampa Lake Bucks, a scout
from the Pittsburgh Pirates to

886
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,200
to my friends to talk about
recruiting and have my good

887
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,840
buddy Darian Rencher, who's a
former Clemson running back, an

888
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,400
entrepreneur.
He's going to be there.

889
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,720
We're going to have a former
college athlete panel is.

890
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:35,320
The Pittsburgh Pittsburgh
Pirates.

891
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,800
Is that here?
Yeah, yeah.

892
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,000
And then we're going to have a
really, really well known

893
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,920
speaker things Will Baggett.
Come on, talk about building

894
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,320
your brand.
And then that used to not be a

895
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,000
thing your brand, you know, like
that's just where NIO is taking

896
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,320
over.
It's not, I shouldn't say,

897
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,720
taking over, but just making an
impact or change.

898
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:55,160
For sure, Yeah.
So we're going to be doing that

899
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,640
and tickets are going to be $50.
And so there's going to be a

900
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,400
link eventually where we get
things going once we officially

901
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,600
finalize it.
But it's going to be in

902
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,280
Columbia.
And yeah, it's going to be a

903
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,280
great opportunity for really
everybody to get together and

904
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,960
grow and learn.
Absolutely.

905
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,120
So if someone listening wants to
get involved in original design

906
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,520
or maybe they are a parent or an
athlete wants to get involved in

907
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,240
banner, well, actually let's go
back to the original design.

908
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:22,360
Sorry.
What are some of the needs

909
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:23,720
there?
What are some of the areas where

910
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:25,040
people could get involved with
that?

911
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,840
Yeah.
So the first need is we have,

912
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,200
you know, around 15 to 20
campers each year.

913
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,600
And so obviously we have
reoccurring donors and people

914
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,120
who have been sewing into our
into what we're doing, whether

915
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,480
it be one time or reoccurring
donors, but we have camper

916
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,160
sponsorships.
And so obviously it costs a lot

917
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,880
of money to to put on with what
we're doing to full time

918
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,200
employees as well.
So there's a lot of different

919
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,760
expenses that go into it.
And so one of the ways that

920
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,400
people can help is by sponsoring
one of our campers.

921
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,200
And that cost us $1500 for the
whole year.

922
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,120
And so if someone wants to do
that, they can do that monthly

923
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,520
just.
Over 100 bucks a.

924
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,600
Month yeah, yeah, like a hundred
$125.00 a month or you can pay

925
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,040
the whole thing.
And so we're, we're doing that

926
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,520
every year.
And so, you know, you can donate

927
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:19,200
on our website, it's called
original designsc.org and we're

928
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,640
on social media and everything
like that.

929
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,040
And so that's like one of the
biggest ways as we like get into

930
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,880
this year.
Is there still campers that we

931
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,880
have not yet sponsored.
And so that and then getting

932
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,000
involved, I mean, there's one of
the biggest things is our need

933
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,920
for mentors.
And so, you know, the kids are

934
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,680
there, you know, we had that
access and we we see the kids

935
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,680
that have the need, but we can't
do what we do without amazing

936
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,840
mentors.
Are you only in Columbia?

937
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,800
Are you planning on expanding
anywhere else?

938
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,400
Right now we're in Columbia.
Who knows in the future what the

939
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Lord can do, but so all of our
our year long program is

940
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,840
centered in Columbia.
But we do have mentors that come

941
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,760
from Greenville, the Upstate or
the lower state.

942
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,960
They just drive and we give them
gas money to come up every time.

943
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,160
But if you are above 18, if you
love Jesus and you have a

944
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,320
passion for kids and, and, and
want to, you know, be a mentor

945
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,600
to someone who might need it,
that's a huge way that you can

946
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,680
get involved.
And we have that those forms and

947
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,480
that info on our website as
well.

948
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,360
And so, and then as well, if you
just want to serve, you know

949
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,720
that mentor responsibility is a
commitment, right?

950
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:26,000
So it's a whole year long of
like it is going to be you need

951
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,600
to have the time available to do
that.

952
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,240
But to be a support volunteer,
it's just, you know, whenever

953
00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:34,000
you can make it, you know,
there's our a list of our camps

954
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,960
and our events.
And if you want to come help put

955
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,600
out coolers or put up the tents
or you know, go get the food or

956
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,240
whatever might be to help make
the day happen.

957
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,080
That is a way to get involved
and with a little bit less

958
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,560
commitment.
So how do you balance both the

959
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,880
nonprofits and the for profit at
the same time?

960
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,960
But then also to, I want to link
that question with being a

961
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,640
previous student athlete was
your, I mean, obviously your

962
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,080
work life balance was crazy.
Do you feel like it's healthier

963
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,800
now?
Like how does it compare?

964
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,520
You're, you're wearing 2 hats
now is leading a nonprofit

965
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,120
leading a for profit?
How does that time commitment

966
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,920
compare to being a student
athlete and an SEC school?

967
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Very similar, you know, it's
like.

968
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,920
Just as busy.
Oh yeah, just like I feel like

969
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,640
I'm more busy now because of the
two things.

970
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,800
But you know, it's just
different, is a little

971
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,680
different.
But it's like that mindset was

972
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,480
something that I had and there
was just like I had the

973
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,120
priorities of what I wanted to
do and and then the things that

974
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,200
were important to me and then
being able to value those

975
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,080
things.
And so it just looks a little

976
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,280
bit different now.
Leading original design and

977
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,040
banner and I've learned so much.
Just Lord's been showing me so

978
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:47,640
much about finding true rest in
him and building things in rest

979
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,040
and not in restlessness, which
is really challenging to do.

980
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,960
I'm sure you don't miss those
getting back home at 4:00 AM

981
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,600
after an awake it's.
Tough, which I do miss the crazy

982
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,960
thing as I do miss the the, you
know, hard workouts, even though

983
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,800
you know, a lot of people.
I don't miss that at all.

984
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,320
Like I wish I can go back to
that and just be be running one

985
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,240
10's and lifting tons of weight
in the morning at 5:00 AM with

986
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,120
my teammates.
You know, it's just something

987
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,440
that's special, the.
Commodity involved in that.

988
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Yeah, it's just beautiful.
It's a, it's a It's something

989
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,800
that you can't really.
Experience anywhere else and

990
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,240
it's like the bonding like with
your brothers during that time.

991
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,040
Actually on the way over here,
when I was leaving the office, I

992
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,120
ran into one of my former
teammates from high school.

993
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,360
He was in the parking lot and I
walked that parking lot every

994
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,480
day and he just been, his mom
works there and he just been

995
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,040
having to bring her something.
So it's just like I hadn't seen

996
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,640
him in 10 years.
But we just connect like right

997
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,680
away.
So it's like that brotherhood

998
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,840
just like is always there when
you work hard together.

999
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,480
So it's pretty cool.
That's really cool experience.

1000
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,880
It really is.
But yeah, going back to to

1001
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,680
banner player development, how
can people get involved with

1002
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,480
that?
Or if they want to be as a

1003
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,680
volunteer, like as a coach, or
if they want to get their kids

1004
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,280
involved, or if they're an
athlete that wants to get

1005
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,240
involved, how can they?
How can they find you?

1006
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,680
Yeah.
So on our Instagram, it's Banner

1007
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,080
PD as in player development.
We have that.

1008
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,320
And yeah, I'd love to, you know,
we have our website,

1009
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,680
whichisbannerpd.com.
And so there's a lot of ways to

1010
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,600
get involved there to where you
just reach out to me on the

1011
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,240
website or on social media and
I'd love to talk with you as far

1012
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:22,120
as any of those 3 right now, we
don't necessarily have, you

1013
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,120
know, banner coaches as in
former athletes being a coach.

1014
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,880
It's just me right now.
But if this is something, if

1015
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,560
banner is something that like
you're like, that's what I'll,

1016
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,080
that's what I love.
That's what I want to do, just

1017
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,320
reach out to me.
And I've had probably about 10

1018
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,280
people do that already.
And so they're going to be

1019
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,600
helping with a conference.
And so there's different ways to

1020
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,120
get involved there.
There's a lot of former

1021
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,920
teammates or.
Not former teammates, but more

1022
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:48,840
former athletes, gotcha, who are
from all around the country,

1023
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,880
who, you know, have seen what
we're doing and wanting to get

1024
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,320
involved.
Yeah, A little bit on a tangent

1025
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,520
before we close out, What are
some of the things that some of

1026
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,000
your teammates have gone into
after football, like some of the

1027
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,640
careers that they've chosen?
You know, I think obviously one

1028
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,400
league playing in the NFL, Yeah
2.

1029
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,760
Outside the league, Real.
Estate.

1030
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,320
No.
Let's see, what else.

1031
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:16,600
Sure, a lot of coaching.
Coaching, yeah, that's one.

1032
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,440
Yeah, that's a big one.
And then maybe a little bit of

1033
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,640
consulting.
OK.

1034
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,640
Yeah, nice.
So those are probably the top 4.

1035
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,440
Yeah, Real estate's a big one,
too.

1036
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,040
Yeah, that's where a lot of
athletes go into.

1037
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,600
There's a guy I follow, he's a
previous athlete of Southern

1038
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,560
Cal.
He's pretty big name Kyle

1039
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,880
Matthews.
He does something very similar

1040
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,200
to this business podcast, but
he's started a real estate firm,

1041
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,840
so I could just I see where
there's a good transition from

1042
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,720
an athlete to do in real estate.
That's kind of another thing

1043
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:47,920
too.
Like I kind of wish I knew more

1044
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,240
of the options.
So like when my football career

1045
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:52,200
ended, per SE, like I was trying
to play my freshman year at

1046
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,840
Clemson, that didn't work out.
I just looked down and saw, hey,

1047
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,200
I'm a student, I'm just going to
be the best student I can.

1048
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:58,960
I just kind of went on my major
and took it.

1049
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,560
I didn't really think about
anything else.

1050
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,040
Like I just kind of fell into
engineering.

1051
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,400
But all I'd say you've had
plenty of mentors along the way

1052
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,200
so far.
What impact has that made on you

1053
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,960
and what is the best advice that
you can remember receiving?

1054
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,000
I've for sure had amazing people
in my life and I would not be

1055
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,760
where I am at all without
without all of them.

1056
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,160
For my family to, you know,
Connor Marcus, which I already

1057
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,920
mentioned to the pastors in my
life, to Greg Demare, my

1058
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,880
spiritual father and a lot of
friends.

1059
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,480
You know, I think as far as the
best piece of advice is, I would

1060
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,600
go back to what I said earlier
about beholdings of the means of

1061
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:49,320
becoming and really diving into
an opening up your heart to how

1062
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,800
much the Lord loves you and not
letting that just be something

1063
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,320
that, you know, I've already
heard that, you know, it's like,

1064
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,480
Oh, I got that, you know, like I
know that Lord loves me.

1065
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,520
It's like one of my friends has
said that before.

1066
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,000
It's like, if that's the, if
that's the response, I know

1067
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,560
there's more to go deeper in.
If the response is all I already

1068
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,040
know that like check, you know,
why are you asking me that?

1069
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,680
Why I didn't talk And there's
that's an invitation to go

1070
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,480
deeper because whenever you
experience the love of Ababa,

1071
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,320
the father, there's no end.
And so there's always there's

1072
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,600
just this call to go deeper.
And so that's what I'd encourage

1073
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:29,000
people with is just, and like,
let that hit you, like open up

1074
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,440
yourself, open up your spirit,
let the Holy Spirit come in and

1075
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,680
like really reveal how much he
loves you, how much he adores

1076
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,960
you, how much he's always been
with you and how he's jealous

1077
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,640
for you.
And, and from there, I think a

1078
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,880
lot of beautiful things will
flow and.

1079
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,400
That's beautiful.
Yeah, there's a absolutely no

1080
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,880
end to it.
You will never fully comprehend

1081
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,560
the love of.
Christ, yes.

1082
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,200
You can't fully comprehend it,
just like how with the Bible,

1083
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,240
like I read the same passage 10
times and and hear 10 different

1084
00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:57,280
things.
There's no end to the the wisdom

1085
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,440
in that.
Yes, Jay, thanks so much for

1086
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,280
joining me today.
Man, that was a great talk and

1087
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,880
I'm excited to share this one.
Yes, man.